"You Can Sit With Us" A Discussion of Faith and Works

Pastor Mike
A group of people are helping each other up a hill.

This devotion accompanies themes that have been studied in the previous week’s Sunday morning Bible class. Over the next few weeks, join us at 9am on Sundays at Trinity for the following discussions!


A high school cafeteria can be a scary place. More than just a place to find nourishment for the second half of the school day, one’s behavior in the cafeteria is governed by unwritten rules and invisible forces. Getting a tray of food is not the hard part, but what happens after. Where you park that tray of room-temperature pizza and baby carrots is the most important thing you do in that cafeteria – in the eyes of the rest of the students, anyway. Where you sit says a lot. Whom you can or should sit next to is thoroughly scrutinized.


Apparently, the religious group known as the Pharisees had not outgrown this adolescent obsession with such scrutiny. Mark records for us that they were viciously critical of Jesus for no smaller a reason than the people with whom he chose to sit and eat. “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?” they asked (Mark 2:16). Jesus sat with the lowest of the low – the social outcasts.


Jesus knew he would fall under that kind of criticism. He sat with these people intentionally. He wanted to show by a simple but friendly gesture of sharing a meal that the love and forgiveness he came to bring is for everyone. He replied to his critics, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners” (Mark 2:17). In other words, if you catch Jesus showing love to people who don’t deserve it, good! You are noticing why he came in the first place. Since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, all need to be justified by God’s grace. Thanks to Christ, we are (Romans 3:23). We are saved by God’s grace alone (Ephesians 2:8).


So everyone is going to heaven, then, right? Because Jesus came to save all people from their sins (1 John 2:2) why isn’t everyone’s relationship with God restored? John 3:16 says, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,” so doesn’t that mean we are all saved?


That Jesus has done the work of justifying the whole world (Romans 3:23), of reconciling the world to God through his sacrifice (2 Corinthians 5:18-19), of atoning for all sins (1 John 2:2), is an objective fact. But don’t forget how the most famous verse of the Bible ends: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Faith is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8) that connects you to the work Jesus accomplished for you, summarized by the term “gospel” (Romans 1:16-17).


But what even is faith, and how do we get it? Faith is confidence (Hebrews 11:1). It is trust (2 Corinthians 4:8). Faith is as simple as looking at Jesus and saying, “That’s my Savior!” (John 3:14-15). “Faith” is another way of talking about the trust-relationship with God that flows from understanding that he has saved you from all your sins (Psalm 13:5-6).


In Bram Stoker’s Dracula, the titular vampire is only able to enter the homes of those who willingly invite him in. A lot of people think that’s how Jesus works, too. But clearly, in the sinful state we inherit, we are incapable of inviting him into our hearts. Before this trust-relationship with God happened, we didn’t know God nor wanted to (Romans 1:21), and if we did, we would have opposed him with all our might (Romans 8:6-7, see also Ephesians 2:1). So clearly, if it were up to us to make this relationship with God happen, we have no chance. We are too far gone on our own to accept God into our own hearts or make a decision to follow and trust in him.


But Jesus barges into our lives and wins us into his kingdom by his love. He makes a home of our hearts through his glorious gospel (Ephesians 3:16-19), freeing us from our sin-darkened minds by showing us the light of his love and grace. He does this through the gospel (Romans 10:17, Romans 1:16,17). Through the gospel itself, Jesus changes our hearts from enemies of God to his trusting children; from spiritually dead to spiritually alive; from dreadful objects of wrath to heirs of eternal life (Romans 9:9-11,14-17).


This is how much God loves you: not only does he forgive you your sin, but he uses the message of your forgiveness to breathe the breath of life into your heart, so that you are now able to rest secure in him. The reason some aren’t going to heaven is not because Jesus didn’t die for them. Nor is it because God doesn’t want them to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-6). It is because of their own rejection of the gospel (John 3:17-20).


Do you have to understand all 66 books of the Bible in order to be saved? Do you have to be able to explain deep theological concepts? Or is it just enough to know the name of Jesus? The key word to remember here is “trust.”


As soon as a baby emerges from the womb, she trusts in her mother. A severely disabled patient trusts the compassionate nurse that attends him. Trust does not depend on intellect. The kind of trust we’re talking about is a spiritual thing, not just an intellectual thing. Remember that Jesus described saving faith as simply looking to him and thinking, “That’s my Savior” (John 3:14-15). A baby, a double PhD Philosophy professor, or a fourteen-year-old struggling to find his way through freshman year are all capable of relying on the goodness of God to save them.


If I’m saved apart from anything I can do to earn or deserve it, and the faith that I have in my heart didn’t get there by my decision or inviting it in, but is a gift from God, what kind of life am I supposed to live?


You will notice that Scripture answers this question very thoroughly, but if we forget what has been said previously, we’ll miss the point. Yes, God has plenty of things to say about the kind of people we should be, but remember that you are different now. Now you have been changed, taught by God himself to rely on him for all goodness, for love, for salvation, and for his strength – apart from anything you can do (Ephesians 2:8-9).


Scripture’s encouragements for how we should live can be summarized this way: “Live as the person you now are.” I wish we had more time to discuss this. For now, see Ephesians 4:1-6, Ephesians 5:1-10, Romans 8:1-17. There are many other passages, but those will be a great start. When Jesus sat with the tax collectors and sinners, he loved them despite their sinful failures. He showed his forgiveness, and then would have explained how to live in the light of that forgiveness (see the example of Zacchaeus in Luke 19:9-10).


We would love it if you joined us as this conversation continues in our Bible class at 9:00am every Sunday morning. We also would love to hear from you on this or any topic, so please get in touch with us!


God bless you with rest, knowing that your relationship with him is secure in Christ. May God give you guidance and courage to live out that relationship every day!


Pastor Mike Cherney

By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
There! Now that we’ve cleared up all the misunderstandings above giving an offering, we are all ready to worship God in this way with regularity and joy! I’m just kidding. We’ve only touched on a few of the false conceptions that are possible. Because giving is an act of sanctification – a fruit of faith, thankfully offered to God in response to the gospel – it is something to “grow into.” There may still be misgivings, questions, and reluctance. Some readers may have been seriously hurt by church leaders who prevailed too strongly upon their debit cards and bank accounts. To those, one blog post will not be sufficient to restore the act of giving to its Scriptural, rightful place. For others, giving was never properly explained as a fruit of faith, not an act that earns goodness from God. To those, I pray this discussion has been helpful. I write this post as one who is himself growing in the act of giving. May God continue to shape our understanding of how to use our gifts to his glory. Giving to God is not a science. The act of giving looks differently among Christians, just as their acts of service and fruits of faith look differently. There are no hard-and-fast equations. We can’t say that giving an offering ensures that you’ll get rich in return (maybe God will choose to bless you in this way, maybe not). We can’t say that giving will come easy once you have a more stable income (your sinful nature will likely resist no matter how much income you have). We can’t say that you should never feel concerned or self-critical over your giving (is there ever an amount that will properly express your thankfulness to God?). So, I would say that giving is much more of an art. After taking in all of Scripture’s guidance about how to approach the act of giving, we proceed using our best judgment. We start with the gospel, meditating on what wonderful things God has done for us through Jesus Christ. We then look at the gifts God has given to us: our finances, our time, our personality gifts. We envision how to respond to God’s goodness with these gifts. While there are some acts of giving that will look very similar among various Christians (for example, we all give of our time when we attend worship and Bible study together), each one of us goes through our own process of deciding how best to respond to the gospel with our gifts. We submit our hearts to God for audit, recognizing that there are often mixed motives within them (Psalm 139:23-24). We rely on God to work within us and through us even as we thank him (Philippians 2:13). After all, this is about our relationship with God – not about securing it for ourselves with offerings, because it is already secure in Christ. Rather, it is about living out a relationship of worship with God, expressing to him and to the world what he means to us. To that end, let’s close with these verses from Hebrews: “Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.” (Hebrews 13:15-16) God bless you as you find joy in God’s pleasure over you for Christ’s sake, and as you respond to this gospel with thanksgiving! Pastor Mike Cherney 
By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
This is a very common conception of the offering, and up to this point it might appear that we also teach the tithe – the practice of giving one tenth of one’s goods as a matter of the law, and not to deviate from that percentage. This is commanded to the Old Testament Israelites in passages such as Leviticus 27:30. But Christ has set us free from the letter of the law (Colossians 2:14, Colossians 2:16-17, Galatians 4:4-5). When the New Testament commands the act of giving, percentages are not mentioned. What is mentioned, however, is that giving be proportionate (1 Corinthians 16:2), generous (2 Corinthians 9:6), done with joy (2 Corinthians 9:7), and a good work sprung from trust in the Lord (2 Corinthians 9:8-11). This is not as specific as the tithe rule. It requires one to spend time reasoning out what a manageable and reasonable gift looks like for them, while still reflecting the thanksgiving and generosity that they wish to communicate in response to the gospel. In many households, ten percent remains a useful benchmark for giving, but must not be treated as a law. Some households will not be able to afford that amount. For others, “proportionate” giving means giving much more than ten percent. It is a lot easier for church leaders to make hard-and-fast rules to “keep people in line,” rather than offer these general encouragements. However, if we remember that giving is an act of worship in response to the gospel, we will avoid strictly laying down ground rules that Scripture no longer enforces. Instead, we will focus on sharing the beautiful gospel with our members, friends, and community, and allow the Holy Spirit to create and nurture the gospel joy that inspires acts of thanksgiving. Likewise, if someone’s giving is “off-kilter,” we don’t want to address their giving with the desire that they “get those numbers up.” That would convey that our worth in God’s family comes from our works. Instead, we express concern over their connection to the gospel, and nurture their relationship with Jesus through Word and Sacrament. Then, and only then, can we discuss what a proper response to the gospel looks like in our giving. Go to next post in this series
By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
This misunderstanding is based partly on truth, but becomes misguided when it is treated as the main issue. Like millions of churches across the world, our church is a not-for-profit organization. We rely solely on the offerings of members to keep the doors open and the air conditioner running. It would stand to reason, then, that we should encourage giving so that the work of the church can continue, don’t you think? After all, the Levites (ministers in the tabernacle and temple worship of the Old Testament) were to rely on the offerings of the rest of the tribes of Israel for their livelihood (Numbers 18:21). The Apostle Paul encouraged offerings so that Christians in dire financial need could be provided for (1 Corinthians 16:1-2). There is a practical side to giving an offering. However, this should not be divorced from the attitude of thankful worship described above. Above all, giving an offering is a fruit of faith inspired by thankfulness in response to the infinite grace of God. It is an act of worship. The opportunity to praise God in this way does not cease when the church’s bills are paid off any more than your need to come to worship services ceases when church attendance is up. Go to next post in this series
By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
In Romans 12:4-8, Paul lists generous giving as but one example of service that God equips people to render within the church. This could lead to the thought that giving is optional for Christians. That would be misguided. Proverbs 3:9 says, “Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops.” Wealth takes many forms. For the Old Testament believer, their material blessings primarily took the forms of crops, flocks, and herds. For most modern Americans, God bestows wealth in the form of finances and material blessings. The directives in both Old and New Testaments to praise God by bringing an offering from our wealth are so thorough that one can hardly ignore or side-step the issue at hand. It is true that our whole lives are to be offered to God as thank offerings for what he’s done (Romans 12:1). It is also true that God is more concerned with the attitude of the heart than with the dollar amount given (see passages above as well as Mark 12:41-44). But it is also true that God’s design for showering us with material gifts is that we honor him in front of others by giving a portion back through this act of worship we have been calling “an offering.” As Psalm 50:23 says, “Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me.” Not all Christians are capable of giving the same amount, or even the same proportion of what they have (we’ll talk about this more in a second), but God’s Word is so full of directives about giving that it is hard for any one of us to exempt ourselves. To put it another way, God seems to be completely comfortable telling us what to do with our money. After all, we only have it in the first place because he gave it to us (see the response to Misunderstanding #1). Go to next post in this series
By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
If the discussion is about how we’re saved, how we know that we have a good relationship with God, then offerings have no place in that discussion, nor any work that we do. But it does not follow that offerings have no significance whatsoever. Placing a financial gift into the collection plate or box, or donating through our online service, is a work. We are saved purely by God’s grace through faith, and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). God loved and saved you apart from anything to do with your potential to “pay him back” with a weekly offering. Jesus gave up his life as the atoning sacrifice for your sins without consideration of your cash flow or income bracket. But when the conversation shifts from “how we are saved” to “how do we thank God for our salvation” or “how do we live out our identity as God’s people,” offerings do have a part in that discussion. Offerings do not provide God with anything he needs, but they are expressions of our heart’s orientation toward him. In both Malachi 3:8-10 and Psalm 51:17-19, giving a sacrificial gift is presented as a way of demonstrating one’s repentance (sorrow over sin and seeking salvation only from God). Giving of what we have is also a communication of our confident trust that God will continue to provide for us. He may supply our needs extravagantly, far above what is necessary. He may only give us our daily bread (Luke 11:3). That’s for him to decide. What’s always true is that God will always provide in some way, shape, or form (Psalm 145:15-16). We have previously defined faith as a trust relationship with God. What better way to say, “I trust you, Lord, and I thank you,” than to give? Go to next post in this series
By Pastor Mike June 27, 2025
Psalm 50:9-13 says, “I have no need of a bull from your stall or of goats from your pens, for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know every bird in the mountains, and the insects in the fields are mine. If I were hungry I would not tell you, for the world is mine, and all that is in it. Do I eat the flesh of bulls or drink the blood of goats?” What did offerings look like before money was invented? The Israelites in the Old Testament worshipped God by giving of their crops, herds, and flocks. In these verses, God makes it clear that the purpose of these offerings was not because he gets hungry and needs to be fed. He is the immortal, eternal, completely self-sufficient God. Sometimes I really think of myself as an asset to God, as if I provide him with something to him that he otherwise would not have had. Or that God relies on my gifts and service to be able to “do his thing.” These thoughts are delusions that come from my (our) selfish pride. There is a part of our hearts (the sinful nature) that would love to assure ourselves of God’s love because of what we do. But to believe this would amount to believing that God’s love is for those who are worthy – who give enough, serve enough, and are generally good enough. The person who gives millions of dollars to their church no more deserves God’s love than the one who gives fifty cents. It is God’s grace (his decision to unconditionally love sinners) that has saved you, not your actions (Ephesians 2:8-9). Whenever we fall prey to these delusions in the equation of God’s salvation, we should remember David’s words. When his eyes feasted on the beautiful offerings the Israelites brought for the construction of the temple, “But who am I, and who are my people, that we should be able to give as generously as this? Everything comes from you, and we have given you only what comes from your hand” (1 Chronicles 29:14). As the hymn goes, “We give Thee but Thine own.” Go to next post in this series
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